We've certainly got many storylines going now, which is great! However, at this time, it may be easiest to consolidate all individual storylines into one topic thread instead of starting a new topic thread for each additional to one's roleplay. This gives other individuals who may be involved in your story-line the opportunity to interject their thoughts into the story. For example, if Vhaerun has something going on, and another Drow is on the scene who may wish to offer their thoughts on the situation (as Zarra is doing right now with Amerakhte), it is easier to keep it all managed in one topic threads than to have them span across multiple threads. I personally think it's fine if, say, the Elves are responding to, say, something that is going on in Sirenia, but are not actually physically -there-, to have a post of their own, giving other elves an opportunity to post or simply to add on what comes next. When to create a new thread and when to simply add on what happens next in one existing thread? Well I leave that up to you guys. We can safely assume that since each topic thread updates with the new date with each new post that it is something that is still ongoing.
Either way, this is not a requirement by any means, but is something worth considering. In the end, do it however you prefer. We've got a lot of great storylines going at once, which is the most important thing. Keep 'em coming!
Yeah. We probably don't want a thread per story post. It's going to be work to keep track of.
We also probably don't want giant threads. That'll be a nuisance another way, with major sections not having conspicuous titles.
I'm thinking of starting a new thread not when the whole arc is done, but when the matter shifts: like a chapter.
I'm not messing with them now, but I could've threaded Coast of Vhaerun #2 and #3 and made it easier to follow.
I can't say I'm satisfied with the threading of storylines, as only readers who (religiously) follow the plots may stumble on new additions to a thread. (I would have missed Nerissa's post about the funeral if Syeira had not personally mentioned in world that a follow-up would be posted in the following days, so that I was on the lookout!)
Looking at the perspective of a newcomer searching for our roleplays, only a direct link brings the most curious here. The homepage links to the "GL SITE" which does not hint at anything regarding roleplays.
(When posting to G+ I always add the direct link to the roleplay forum, which bypasses the entire Lisianthus website and that is also a shame.)
Perhaps we should consider an open blog form for the roleplay storylines (eg. The River Lands Roleplay Blog: www.jaekob.blogspot.com). The chronological form works well here and roleplay storylines criss-cross without great problems.
Otherwise it may simply be wise to post new RPs under a shared header, eg.
[Death of the Mer Queen] - Tavrobel#2 The Elves Convene
We need a solution we can all work with, but more importantly, we should make it as easy as possible for others to read and/or participate in future.
I think I've never finished a long story published in blog format. They're always recent post first. You can't easily find the head if it's not the blog head, and if you do, its page number is always changing. ... Wait, that's not true. But the ones I did finish were intended to be fixed-form stories from the beginning, the head was obvious, and the posts were first-to-last.
A blog would impose a unchanging chronological order on the posts. That would mimick the structure of the roleplaying campaigns I used to run, where we played in chat and the logs naturally were chronological by session, which would help make order ... but blogs are often a blasted pain to navigate, after the fact. I'd hate to impose that on new players. (Or on me, later, trying to look things up.)
You're right, it is easier to notice new posts if they're not threaded. I missed the update at first too. Hmm.
It's not a big chore to index the posts as they're made, and I'm optimistic about that being a good way to keep the stuff easy to read in chronological order over time.
Thinking about it:
I haven't been organizing my posts by plotline. They're organized by geography.
The Coast of Vhaerun crew currently is mostly concerned with the Death of the Mer-Queen, which has turned out to be a much bigger deal than I thought it was going to be -- I figured I'd make a post or two and it would pass, not that someone would decide to start a war. :) But naturally that's not going to be the only thing that concerns them: people don't do, or think, only one thing at a time. Chopped in with stuff about the Death of the Mer-Queen I'll end up with remniscences and flashbacks and the history of Vhaerun or some other storyline. If I put it all in different threads, I'll never figure out what these people were doing, once it lapses from current memory.
It so happens that I didn't write a post in which they attended the funeral. I wrote one saying they were going, and the one I'm writing now says they went. But if the funeral-attending post did exist, I think it would best go in Sirenia, and I'd make sure there were links in the Coast of Vhaerun thread so I could find it again.
If I have this organization by place, and a chronological post list, I probably won't tear my hair out trying to figure out what went on, two years from now.
But the other concern is whether new players can figure out what's going on. Right now it's easy to read the whole forum, but it won't be by the end of the year, at this rate.
So ... I'm thinking: sometime after a storyline is finished, we'll probably realized it's finished. Then it would probably be pretty handy if we wrote a short (maybe 2 or 3 paragraphs) explaining who, what, why, when, where, and how. Then they could refer to quick summaries and read more if they want to.
I'm saying this because one of the things that happened, as my main roleplaying campaign went on lo these many years ago, is that it became hard for new characters to get into things. It's hard to know what kind of character will work if you don't know anything about existing relationships.
It's possible this'll turn out to be a nuisance and we'll end up forgetting, but I think I'll give it a try when I recognize a finished story.
I can see both sides of the argument. Ideally if possible, I'd like to encompass the entire Sirenia Arc that is going on to be under one thread. However, despite the end goal still revolving around the Mer Queen's demise, the Blackmoor/Vhaerun storyline is still taking center stage right now, and Sirenia is kind of off to the side, for now.
Just make a call on how we shall keep things in order.
I understand the SIRENIA ARC as including everything that occurred due to the death of the Mer Queen, including the Elves discussing it together or the warring Drow. I plan to have a character mention some of it in Port Annwn soon, but they are so far away that it will have little effect on the main Arc, still it is about what occurs there, so will run under that title.
The Fae, on the other hand, shall continue with their mayhem as usual and as little or no mention of Sirenia etc. occurs there, I'll post it without an Arc-heading.
After the title I've begun adding the showplace, as Astrid does and including a "Follows from:..." link at the beginning.
Nyza, Astrid, I'll leave it up to you both to decide on a unilateral headings concept, so that we all stick to it.
The single most important thing you can have in the title is where it's happening. That also tends to give you some idea of the who.
The second is probably when. People can't always post on the same day something would happen, but the post date is probably good enough.
I don't know about thread names. I don't need them now; they are conceivably useful later; but as we can already see, they're spinning off naturally, without the spinoff point being obvious while it's happening (totally unsurprising to me, based on previous experience). We now really have [Sirenia Arc] and [Vhaerun War]. (Solving Sirenia's problems won't solve the drow's problems, and vice versa: two related stories, not one.)
When I was running my rp campaigns, after the last campaign was well underway, I recognized that if it had been written as a novel, the overriding shape was The Story of PC Andor Ironbeard., with as much peregrination as The Wheel of Time (well, OK, not that much). I didn't know before that. Earlier I would've told you they were four not-terribly-organized campaigns.
My guess is that some time after the fact, it will become clearer what formed an arc or a subarc. They may not be what we expect when we're writing. So the only thing I'd really suggest is try to keep it relatively easy to find things people might need to refer to. It's possible that after a story concludes you'll want to move it to its own forum, but I really don't know yet.
I have written post titles that comment on the action rather than describe what it is. This amuses me now, but I suspect it's not a good idea long-term.
Thankfully we have the opportunity to test different things, get feedback, and see which works well for most people. Since we're not hitting the heart of the Drow War, we'll be able to compare all the roleplay under one thread vs. how we've been doing it in multiple threads. For your Chrono order thingie, since you can already link to the specific topic post, you can just add "Post 1" "Post 2" and so on for recordkeeping.